Re: Not [Re: Phil Johnson]

From: george murphy (
Date: Tue Oct 02 2001 - 20:28:02 EDT

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    Tim Ikeda wrote:

    > Moorad Alexanian wrote:
    > [...]
    > > I am toying with the notion that a genuine scientific search
    > > for answers becomes so fruitless that it leads to belief.
    > [...]
    > Several years ago I posted just that thesis on the Calvin
    > evolution list and possibly even here. I called it:
    > "Ironic Design".
    > Only an intelligent, active agent with a fine sense of irony
    > would create a world in which the evidence for natural evolution
    > or creation would always remain inconclusive (at least for some
    > transitions). Further, and unlike other supposedly "creator-
    > neutral" formulations of design, my notion incorporates
    > information about the nature of the potential ID creator to
    > generate potentially testable hypotheses about the nature of
    > the creation that we might observe. Specifically, if a world was
    > created by an Ironic Designer, it follows that the creations
    > would embody a great deal of humor, for an Ironic Designer
    > must necessarily have a wicked sense of comedy (both light
    > and dark).
    > Although an objective measurement of "funny" remains a work
    > in progress, I think that subjective experience lends
    > support to Ironic Design. Currently, we're trying to tackle
    > the measurement problem using tools from information theory.
    > Preliminary work (aside: Avoid disappointment by never
    > publishing anything but preliminary results) suggests these
    > tools have great potential. For example, in info theory, a
    > truely random signal has the greatest information content.
    > What could be more ironic than that?
    > Publications?
    > I'm still working at adding a few more footnotes to enhance
    > the illusion of legitimacy and careful thought to the
    > manuscript. [Personally, I find it rather difficult to
    > insert ellipses in quoted material to make the quote appear
    > to support my theory. I may have to hire someone more
    > experienced to help -- Does anyone have Ken Ham's phone
    > number?] Then it's off to Zygon for a review.

    Tim -
            You may find the old song by Tom Lehrer, "Gregory Ivanovich
    Lobachevsky", helpful in preparing your work for publication, especially
    since your goal must of course be to "publish first." E.g., "Footnotes
    I take from old Vladivostok telephone book."



    George L. Murphy
    "The Science-Theology Interface"

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