Re: How Einstein and Hammond proved God exists

From: psiigii (
Date: Fri Aug 31 2001 - 03:21:31 EDT

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    Thank you, James! God did not create mathematics, nor did He create physics.
    God created matter. "Physics" is just man's feeble attempt to grasp the true
    essence of the matter God created. Mathematics is just the language man uses
    in these attempts. As man's insights into the true nature of "material world" grows,
    the mathematical "language" we employ to conceptualize/formalize our insights--
    which, BTW, may still not be the true essence--has evolved to this end. In the
    end, however, physics is still man's attempt to understand, and mathematics is
    still just man's language to verbalize our understanding (again, not necessarily
    being the truth). Both are man's creations, not God's.

    Howard Meyer

    (BTW, George, I read your response to James before writing this...)
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "James W Stark" <>
    To: "asa" <>
    Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 7:04 AM
    Subject: Re: How Einstein and Hammond proved God exists

    > on 8/30/01 9:07 AM, George Hammond at wrote:
    > > < large snip>
    > > If then, "Man is made in the image of God", Riemannian
    > > geometry must be the description of God.. or more specifically,
    > > Einstein's theory is. See:
    > >
    > >
    > Quoting from this site:
    > _Now, beyond all this, what we see is that the "geometric properties
    > of space itself" are the CAUSAL FORCE that determines the geometrical
    > shape of the human body. Because of this, it turns out that the
    > "geometrical shape of the brain" is also determined and is found to
    > be "3-axis Cartesian" in SHAPE (notice I said SHAPE, not volume).
    > The Brain actually has Axes of mechanical symmetry, just like
    > the Body:_
    > Why do you confine your concept of God to mathematics. Mathematics can only
    > estimate what might be fixed laws. It cannot guarantee truth. Physicists
    > are now suggesting that matter is an illusion.
    > As a reference see: <>
    > See the article Beyond E=mc2 for how we can reason this way. I quote:
    > _It is actually a statement about how much energy is required to give the
    > appearance of a certain amount of mass, rather than about the conversion of
    > one fundamental thing, energy, into another fundamental thing, mass._
    > [B. Haisch, A. Rueda & H.E. Puthoff, The Sciences, Vol. 34, No. 6, November
    > / December, pp. 26-31 (1994).]
    > Mathematics cannot explain the truth of a non-deterministic free will.
    > God used God's free will to create mathematics. The Christian God embraces
    > the truth of non-deterministic free will. Your association of God to a
    > mathematical proof cannot establish truth.
    > James Stark

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