RE: Is Jonah to be taken literally?

From: Adrian Teo (
Date: Wed Aug 29 2001 - 11:51:34 EDT

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    It seems to me that you have totally misunderstood the RC concept of
    tradition. In RC understanding, here is absolutely no way Sacred Tradition
    can be used to introduce "another Gospel". It has been said that there are
    not a few hundred people who hate the RC church, but millions who hate what
    they believe to be the RC church. I would urge you to carefully study and
    understand RC teachings before offering criticisms - I think this is a fair
    request that any reasonable person would agree with. And just to be very
    clear, I mean you absolutely no disrespect and harbor no hard feelings.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Guy Blanchet []
    Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:54 AM
    To: Howard J. Van Till
    Cc: Vince D. Calhoun; James W Stark;
    Subject: Re: Is Jonah to be taken literally?

    Mr. Van Till,

    As Mr. Murphy pointed out to me, the subject of this discussion is now
    somewhat out of the bounds of normal ASA related matters. However I will
    briefly answer your questions.

    Howard J. Van Till a écrit:

     Guy Blanchet a écrit:

    Mr. Van Till,

    You're confusing the Church of God with the Church of Rome. The arguing
    over whether or not Jesus was God was simply the beginnings of what the
    Chruch of Rome has come to refer to as Tradition. The Bible may clearly say
    something but Tradition may decide to 'rephrase' certain things to widen the
    road and give elbow room. That's what makes that institution a 'thoroughly
    human institution' as you say.

    Mr. Blanchet,

    Before I respond, let me be certain that I understand you correctly.

    (1) Are you saying that, of all Christian denominations, the Roman Catholic
    Church is the only one that might be described as a 'thoroughly human

    There could be other 'Christian' denominations taking the humanistic path
    while more or less giving an outwardly appearance of following Christ.


    (2) Are you saying that "Tradition" (by which I presume you mean "binding
    ecclesiastical decisions") do not play a role in denominations other than
    the Roman Catholic Church?

    Traditon is always present. It is not intrinsically wrong, but in the case
    of the RC., Tradition has been the vehicle used to progressively introduce
    another Gospel.

    (3) What do you mean by "the Church of God"?

        (a) A specific denomination or set of denominations? If so, what are the
    criteria of selection?

    No. It is the Church that Jesus instituted while on earth; the assembly of
    believers in Him.

        (b) A subset of members from several denominations? If so, what are the
    criteria of selection?

        (c) A set of persons, not necessarily members of any institutional
    church, who are committed to certain tenets of faith? If so, what are these

    Those that Jesus laid out.


    Howard Van Till


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