Re: Response to Why YEC posting

From: Todd S. Greene (
Date: Thu Aug 23 2001 - 08:58:56 EDT

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    Hi, guys.

    When you're talking about circular reasoning, please, let's keep in mind
    that *by its very nature* the apparent age argument is the most circular
    reasoning on the planet. It comes from creationists who say, "If the
    evidence shows that the earth is young, then this is true science." (Of
    course, "scientific creationism" has become, deservedly, extremely
    noteworthy for its scientific deficiencies.) They also say, "If the
    evidence shows that the earth is young, then the evidence is not real."
    For example, even though with SN1987A astronomers observed the explosion
    of a star that took place about 168,000 years ago, the apparent age
    concept says that this explosion never actually occurred even though the
    event is directly observed. Another example would be impact craters
    (on the earth and the moon): "Apparent agers" would consider these to be
    not the remains of impacts that actually happened, but merely
    "landforms" that God created "in situ" when he created the earth and the

    So when young earth creationists complain about circular reasoning, and
    they turn around and use the apparent age argument, there's this
    hypocrisy thing that stinks to high heaven.

    Incidentally, I hashed out this apparent age argument in discussions
    archived at my website:

       "The YEC Discussion in the Mars-List Forum"
       "The YEC Discussion in "Evolution Talk"

    Todd S. Greene

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