Re: mystical experience

From: robert rogland (
Date: Sat Aug 18 2001 - 01:07:28 EDT

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    This has got to be a put-on. Either that, or someone has been ingesting
    controlled substances.

    Bob Rogland
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    Date: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:32 PM
    Subject: mystical experience

    >A new model of motivational behavior, described as a ten-level,
    >meta-hierarchy of the major groupings of virtues, values, and ideals,
    >as the foundation for a new holistic theory of ethics and morality, with
    >applications to the mystical experience. This innovation arises as a direct
    >outcome of the Systems Theory concept of the metaperspective (a
    >perspective upon the viewpoint held by another). These traditional
    >of ethical terms are collectively arrayed as subsets within such a
    >of metaperspectives, each more abstract listing building in a direct
    >upon that which it supersedes. Take, for example, the cardinal virtues
    >(prudence-justice-temperance-fortitude), the theological virtues
    >(faith-hope-charity-decency), and the classical Greek values
    >(beauty-truth-goodness-wisdom). Each of these groupings is split into a
    >complex of four subordinate terms, allowing for precise, point-for-point
    >stacking within the ethical hierarchy. When additional groupings of ethical
    >terms are further added into the mix: namely, the personal ideals
    >(glory-honor-dignity-integrity), the civil liberties
    >(providence-liberty-civility-austerity), the humanistic values
    >(peace-love-tranquility-equality), and the mystical values
    >(ecstasy-bliss-joy-harmony), amongst others; the complete ten level
    >hierarchy of metaperspectives emerges in full detail, partially reproduced
    >in the table immediately below:
    > GLORY--------PRUDENCE
    > GRACE----------BEAUTY
    > HONOR---------JUSTICE
    > LIBERTY----------HOPE
    > FREE WILL-------TRUTH
    > EQUALITY--------BLISS
    > LOVE--------------JOY
    > PEACE---------HARMONY
    > This cohesive hierarchy of virtues, values, and ideals proves
    >exceedingly comprehensive in scope, accounting for many major ethical terms
    >celebrated within the Western ethical tradition. Indeed, it is easy to gain
    >a sense of the trend towards increasing abstraction when scanning each of
    >the individually depicted columns from top to bottom. Furthermore, this
    >cohesive ethical hierarchy mirrors the specialization of personal, group,
    >spiritual, humanitarian, and transcendental realms within human society in
    >general: which when further specialized into both authority and follower
    >roles, accounts for the complete ten-level hierarchy of ethical terms.
    > The highest level of the mystical values (ecstasy-bliss-joy-harmony)
    >represents the most abstract (nameable) realm of the power hierarchy: any
    >further extension of this hierarchial format necessarily specifying the
    >existence of an even more abstract level of authority; namely, that
    >transcending transcendental authority. Although such an unprecedented
    >conceptual undertaking would certainly stretch the limits of abstract
    >sensibility, any such upper limit to the power hierarchy must strictly be a
    >practical one; e.g., when the level of abstraction finally exceeds the
    >capacity of the intellect to distinguish the individual affective
    >(precluding their incorporation into the collective language culture).
    > The observed blending of meanings at the very highest levels of the
    >hierarchy of values would seem to suggest precisely such an upper
    >limit to the power hierarchy. Indeed, beginning with the transcendental
    >level of authority, the respective listing of humanistic values
    >(peace-love-tranquility-equality) all exhibit a fair degree of
    >even though some degree conceptual affinity was hinted at in their
    >dictionary definitions. At the next higher, transcendental follower level,
    >however, the mystical values (ecstasy-bliss-joy-harmony) all exhibit a much
    >more dramatic degree of conceptual affinity, as evident in definitions that
    >are similar (if not synonymous) in form and function.
    > Taking this trend to the limit, however, specifies the complete and
    >irrevocable blending of meaning at the anticipated meta-meta-order level of
    >transcendence. At this almost inconceivable level of abstraction, the four
    >predicted affective dimensions should ultimately merge into a unified
    >conceptual continuum, entirely unnamable except in the broadest of
    >supernatural terms; i.e., God, the Absolute, etc. One experiencing this
    >extreme level of transcendence would certainly be impressed by the
    >paradoxical blending of emotional states, in direct contrast to the more
    >concrete range of experience at the lower levels. In ordinary consciousness
    >the mind is typically restricted to entertaining only one power maneuver
    >emotion) at any given time. In this supernatural dimension, however, the
    >distinctions between the emotions would become so blurred as to merge into
    >unified state; i.e., the one becomes the many, as so many mystics have
    >reported down through the ages.
    >This paradoxical experience of all-knowing consciousness has universally
    >been documented using a wide range of designations; i.e., the Universal
    >Mind, the Oversoul, The Great Spirit, Cosmic Consciousness, etc. All appear
    >to serve as a primordial prototype for the continuum of lower (more
    >differentiated) states. Indeed, the unified nature of this supreme
    >perspective (by definition) encompasses all of the lower levels as subsets;
    >hence, accounting for the corresponding flooding of the emotions. Herein
    >lie the basis for the traditional Judeo-Christian belief that man is
    >in the image and likeness of God. Ordinary consciousness (with its
    >sequential limitations) is theorized to differentiate out of such an
    >all-encompassing, primordial state. Indeed, at this highest "supernatural"
    >level we are all "gods" in a sense, tuning into the Universal Mind as the
    >sum-potentiality of all that is emotional in nature.
    > Perhaps it is really only a matter of convention (devised by the
    >ordinary mind) to regard God as a wholly separate entity. William James
    >appears to make a similar point in the following quotation from The
    >Varieties of Religious Experience: "This overcoming of all the usual
    >barriers between the individual and the Absolute is the great mystical
    >achievement. In mystic states we both become one with the Absolute and we
    >become aware of our oneness. This is the everlasting and triumphant
    >tradition, hardly altered by differences of clime or creed."
    > Along similar lines, the spiritually minded can rightfully view the
    >hierarchy of virtues and values as rooted directly in this supernatural
    >realm; all power emanating from the supreme Godhead, the Creator of all
    >is spiritual and material. According to this speculative scenario, all
    >authority filters down from the supernatural realm, consistent with God's
    >supreme role as the benevolent creative force behind all human endeavors.
    >The individual traditions leading to enlightenment are not the crucial
    >factor here, for as many a religious sage has noted: "many roads lead to
    > Such a supernatural perspective underscores the supreme paradox of
    >power hierarchy; namely, its openness at both its upper and lower margins.
    >The lower end blends with the mysterious (materialistic) realm of
    >instinctualism, whereas the upper end enters into the mystical realm of the
    >supernatural. Although the limited human intellect favors such a dualistic
    >interpretation, such a simplistic perspective (on a grander scale) might
    >actually amount to a grand illusion! Is it truly possible to distinguish
    >spiritual from the material, the mental from the physical? No matter how
    >focuses this inquiry, the two always appear to remain intimately connected.
    >As long as this mind-body puzzle remains unresolved, such issues must
    >continue to remain open to speculation.
    >Excerpt reproduced from A Revolution in Family Values: Spirituality for a
    >New Millennium (c. 2001)
    >John E. LaMuth M.S.
    >Private Practice Counselor

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