Re: Was Copernicus. Sun stood still

From: Michael Roberts (
Date: Thu Aug 09 2001 - 12:06:46 EDT

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    This is not logical at all. If God created all things then God could make a
    Virgin pregnant, the sun stand still and a fish swallow Jonah. But it does
    not follow as of logic that he did. We need to be sure that the style of
    literature expects us to take it as a miracle. It does for Mary, not
    necessarily for the sun and Jonah is not a historical book - or at least in
    the Jewish canon. Remember that in biblical times there was no real concept
    of science and a "miracle" is a particular act of God and has no reference
    to breaking of scientific law - the usual and wrong definition of a

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Guy Blanchet" <>
    To: <>
    Cc: "Ted Davis" <>; <>
    Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:23 AM
    Subject: Re: Was Copernicus. Sun stood still

    Mr. Olsen,

    It's a question of basic logic. You say you believe in most parts of the
    Bible. Do you
    believe the first lines saying : "In the beginning God created the heavens
    and the earth." ?
    If you believe that, then logically, can you doubt that that same God can
    make the sun that
    he created stand still? And likewise, can he create a large fish to carry a
    man and release
    him after three days?

    Regards a écrit:

    > Ted,
    > I can accept most of the reported miracles in the Old Testament as
    > authentic reports. However, this supposed account of the sun standing
    > is a real problem to me. How do you explain this story and that of Jonah,
    > Ted? I want to maintain the belief that the Bible is the inspired Word of
    > God. But this accout seems beyond credibility to me.
    > Sam
    > "Ted Davis"
    > <tdavis@messiah.e To: <>
    > du> cc:
    > Sent by: Subject: Who was bothered
    by Copernicus?
    > asa-owner@udomo5.
    > 07.08.01 19:53
    > Those bothered by the apparent contradiction between Copernicanism and the
    > literal sense of several verses of the Bible (more than a dozen, but e.g.
    > Joshua chapter 10 and Eccles 1:5) include Martin Luther (George will
    > properly tell us that his comment was impersonal, off-the-cuff, and
    > unofficial--but then so were a lot of the things Luther said), Cardinal
    > Bellarmino, and Tycho Brahe. The list could be a lot longer, but these
    > three illustrate the point well enough.
    > Ted Davis

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