Re: Don't forget about me! (distal vs. proximate)

Date: Sun Apr 15 2001 - 08:39:48 EDT

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    In a message dated 4/13/01 11:28:16 AM, writes:

    << The books by Howard Van Till serve as a stellar example. In both *The
    Fourth Day* and *Science Held Hostage* there is "equal time" given to the
    critique of YEC and of the atheistic naturalists. As you know Howard and I
    don't see eye to eye on everything, but I have no doubt that he offers a
    sustained critique of atheistic naturalism as a philosophical/theological
    system. It just doesn't trickle down into any critique of evolutionary
    science that Johnson and company want it to. >>


    I am not sure Howard would consider himself a TE. As I recall, he objected
    strenuously to this label in the book _Three Views of Creation_ (I think
    that is the title. Maybe someone can help me here.) You might want to ask

    <<I just had a chance to read George Murphy's article in the latest
    Perspectives, posted on the web at While I can't
    say I had my nit-picking glasses on, I found it to be a good explanation of
    why we might not expect "differences" between theistic and non-theistic
    science. As I've argued elsewhere, non-theists are actually doing theistic
    science, they just don't know it or won't admit it.>>

    I read George's article, too, and found his cross-centeredness a profound
    theological perspective. The hiddenness of God in creation is also a helpful
    insight. But my impression was that the thrust of the article was targeted
    primarily at the ID community rather than the non-theistic science community.

    You or someone else would do me and perhaps others a favor if you would post
    a list or collection of TE writings that address the problem you mentioned in
    your first post, a philosophical/theological critique of the atheistic
    biological community.

    Thanks for your help.


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