Re: Don't forget about me! (distal vs. proximate)

Date: Wed Apr 11 2001 - 05:22:36 EDT

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    In a message dated 4/9/01 2:26:57 PM, writes:

    << In many ways this is a purely theological assertion. This is why in the end
    my science looks nearly identical to the non-theist's science and why my
    criticisms of ID sound nearly identical to non-theists' criticisms. Phil
    Johnson has called my position "vacuous" and despises it because it makes
    no "threat" to the non-theist scientific community. As I've said many times
    before, the critique that we ought to be making of the atheistic scientific
    community is at the philosophical/theological level and not at the
    practical science level. >>


    I applaud many parts of your overall statement, being a Calvinist myself.
    But I take issue with the above statement. Your strategy of not critiquing
    the atheistic scientific community at the practical scientific level, is not
    in the best interest of science nor of the TE community. To exempt a
    scientific theory from scientific critique, "at the practical science level",
    which I believe you are doing in the case of evolution, does a disservice to
    science. Skepticism even of major theories should be an important permanent
    attitude of a scientist.

    But I may be mistaken. Perhaps you have critiqued the theory of evolution
    and I am unaware of it. If so, I would like to hear it. What, in your
    judgment is/are the major weakness(es) of Darwinian evolution? Or to put it
    another way, are there any biological data that not accounted for by
    Darwinian evolution, and if so what are they?

    My guess is that if you were to critique Darwinian evolution from a
    scientific perspective you would find a place in the "Big Tent." But as long
    as you are indistinguishable from non-theistic evolutionists, as you describe
    yourself, who seem unable to take an objective, critical view of their theory
    you will not find the right hand of fellowship extended to you. After all,
    would George Washington have welcomed a volunteer into his army who openly
    supported the divine right of kings and the absolute right of Parliament to
    impose taxation without representation?



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