atheism vs theism

From: Ted Davis (
Date: Wed Sep 13 2000 - 12:10:39 EDT

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    Wow! I love Steve Peterman's comments about similar attitudes among
    religious vs atheistic fundamentalists. Absolutely correct, in my view.
    Dawkins wants to know "why" people believe in God, he just can't fathom
    "what it adds" to have faith. This is fundamentalism, pure and simple:
    without dead certainty one ought not assent.

    My own advice to Moorad comes too late: don't do a debate. As one who is
    very familiar with Harry Rimmer, known in his day as the best fundementalist
    debater of "atheists", "evolutionists," (aren't they the same?) etc., I
    realize full well that people can win the audience without winning the
    argument; and that debate very rarely change anyone's mind. The rhetorical
    stance one must assume in a typical debate is not in fact conducive to the
    discovery of truth, I dare say, and I apply this to political debates as
    well as to religious ones.

    I have a few times been invited to "debate" someone in one forum or
    another. I always decline. One of these days I'll accept, but I'll warn
    the people who invite me: OK, I'll do it, but the very first thing out of my
    mouth will be the statement, "The debate is over. I lost. My opponent is
    surely a better debater, and may also have deeper knowledge of this subject.
     Those wanting to hear a debate may leave now. Those interested in hearing
    what I think on this question, however, are invited to stay. I might
    perhaps have something helpful to say. In any case I'm more concerned about
    truth than about winning an argument."

    Ted Davis

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