Re: The Church of Darwin (WSJ 16 Aug 1999)

Moorad Alexanian (
Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:12:22 -0400

I view the whole of reality embedded in a two-dimensional space--the
physical + the spiritual. Man resides in both, whereas all else in creation
resides only in the physical--I do not know of other spiritual beings in the
rest of creation. The reasoning and creative ability of man is purely
spiritual. Animals are highly complicated computers. God sustains the whole
of creation but man can "move" somewhat freely in spiritual space.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hamilton <>
To: Howard J. Van Till <>; ASA Listserve
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: The Church of Darwin (WSJ 16 Aug 1999)

>I have to leave for home a few minutes ago, but I want to comment on a
>couple things Howard said. This is one of the best defenses of the RFE
>principle I have yet seen from Howard. I for one will find it useful in
>discussions with others. However, putting on my former creationist hat, I
>suspect a good many creationists will say that Howard's view makes God seem
>very impersonal: we only know Him indirectly through admiring His
>creation. That's not what Howard is saying, of course, but I'm sure the
>deism label will be pinned even to this. Let me inject something that I
>hope will appeal to thinking creationists. It seems to me that God _does_
>intervene in the world, and Scripture documents that He does. But that
>intervention is in the affairs of men -- the beings He has created to have
>fellowship with Him. Stars, planets, energy, chemicals, and even animals
>(to a lesser extent to be sure) act according to more or less well-defined
>rules. Man on the other hand is capable of behaving un unpredictable ways,
>because he can observe nature, think about it and act on his thoughts. It
>seems very reasonable that God intervenes in the affairs of men, and from
>personal experience I attest that He does. _That_ seems far more
>impressive to me than the question of whether He causes earthquakes, etc.
>I think He can and does cause earthquakes, but He does so by making
>infinitesimal adjustments (if nature is a mechanism, call them _inputs_) to
>a superbly designed mechanism (nature) that carries out His desires.
>Bill Hamilton
>William E. Hamilton, Jr., Ph.D.
>Staff Research Engineer
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