Re: Coral Growth Rates

Dick Fischer (
Tue, 25 May 1999 22:08:42 -0400

Jim Mahaffy wrote (in a private post):


>And could it be that I am an evangelical who takes the written word of
>my God seriously influence what I think. You bet and I do not apologize
>for that.

I think it would be difficult for one to call himself a Christian if the
word of God
didn't influence his thinking. And none of us seem to contend on any of the
essentials of the faith.

>I didn't think this was the fairest slam at Art since he is well read in
>geology and usually get his facts straight.

I think you missed the point. Art is on staff at a Seventh Day Adventist
University. The official position of the school is strict six 24-hour day
creation. In his position he is not allowed to reach an independent
conclusion, regardless of the validity of the data. The evidence on
coral growth, for example, is a dagger in the heart to Seventh Day dogma.
If Art was a student at that university, he would be free to examine the
argument, conclude he had been misled, and transfer to Baylor.

But the faculty and staff is committed to a philosophical perspective due to
their religious belief irrespective of whatever science comes up with. Their
hands are in the till. So, teach religion at Seven-Day U. Teach English.
Teach drama. Teach business. But you can't teach Geology unless you have
no vestige of honor. And then to appear on this forum as if his hands were
clean, without disclosing his motives, is reprehensible. He is sold out. He
has bowed before the golden idle. He has accepted his thirty pieces of
and still wishes to sip the wine and break bread at the table of

To teach Geology at a school that disavows the very underpinnings of the
science itself would be the same thing as having Julian Huxley teaching
Basic Christian Doctrine at MIT. Let Art fiddle with the minds of those so
mired in religious entrapment it won't make any difference, but let him have
the decency to leave this forum to those committed to honest engagement.

Dick Fischer - The Origins Solution -
"The answer we should have known about 150 years ago."