Re: Dembski and Nelson at MIT and Tufts

Brian D Harper (
Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:25:31 -0700

At 02:12 PM 4/6/99 -0600, Kevin wrote:
>>Heisenberg, Schrodinger and Dirac laid down the foundation of quantum
>>mechanics--which describes the whole of chemistry. Those I listed were the
>>fathers of quantum mechanics.
>Of course they were, but they won their prizes for their discoveries of
>different phenomena of quantum mechanics, not because they were the fathers
>of quantum mechanics. As you explain above, they won their prizes
>individually for their individual achievements as quantum mechanics was
>first being described, not all together as a group years later after quantum
>mechanics had been recognized as a legitimate field.
>Those who laid the foundations for the ultimate success of abiogenesis were
>not doing the kind of research that would attract much attention outside
>their field, or would lead to any amazing breakthroughs on its own; it
>wasn't until after their individual research could be examined in total that
>they understood what they had achieved.
>>Who are the fathers of life from matter?
>Even if I knew who they all were, I wouldn't waste space writing out a
>hundred plus names that no one but me would recognize. Who are the fathers
>of enzymology? I don't know, and it doesn't matter. Their research
>demonstrated that enzymes are catalysts, whether we can name them or not,
>whether they were ever officially awarded for their efforts or not. The
>same is true of abiogenesis.

A hundred names won't be necessary. Can you give five references
wherein a prominent scientist in the field claims that life has
been created in the lab?

Brian Harper
Associate Professor
Applied Mechanics
The Ohio State University

"All kinds of private metaphysics and theology have
grown like weeds in the garden of thermodynamics"
-- E. H. Hiebert