Re: >Re: >RE: What does ID mean?

Glenn R. Morton (
Wed, 06 May 1998 19:24:00 -0500

Hi Moorad,

Moorad wrote:
>Scripture tells us about a new earth and a new heaven. Do these things have
>anything to do with our earth and our sky. If so, I cannot see how our
>present laws will predict such things. Glenn let us face it we do not know
>if we are going to be here tomorrow. Human mortality may point to the
>"mortality" of the universe. Perhaps, then just as we cannot know when we
>will die, we cannot know when the universe will "die." God is consistent,
>but that does not say that such consistency means what we want it to mean.
>We really don't know that much about God. In Christ we see mainly His love
>for us.

This appears to be a major equivocation on your part. We were discussing
the laws of the universe, not the laws of the New Heaven and New Earth. We
were also discussing the applicability of the laws to the past. I will
fully grant that the day that God closes the book on the universe, the
present laws do not exist and thus do not apply to the universe. However,
this is not the case with the past (after the creation). God instituted his
laws and they have with few exceptions been allowed to run their course..

In another note you wrote to George Murphy,

>When I discuss science, I do not bring my Christian faith into the picture.
>It is only when we discuss the philosophy of science that my worldview,
>based on my faith, comes into play.

When I was a YEC I used to take this view. At work, between Monday and
Friday, I would talk and act like an old earth geoscientist. I had to
because the YEC view had no explanations for the geological data. On
Saturday and Sunday I was a YEC. I finally figured out that this was a bit
hypocritical of me and besides, if my philosophy was unable to be discussed
in ALL aspects of my life, then maybe something was wrong with my
philosophy. After all, Hebrews 2:8 says that God has put all things in
subjection to him. How could this verse be true if I couldn't explain the
geological data in relation to Him?

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