Re: What does ID mean?

Dennis Feucht (
Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:04:56 -0400


You're right; it's ID that Howard is asking for a definition of. But this
leads very quickly to the question of what _design_ is; hence my response.

As for a definition of ID, the IDers have been discussing this among
themselves. As I see it, ID is not so much a concept as a movement, and
what it is advocating has been extensively discussed, starting with the
major assertions of Phil Johnson and represented by ideas published in
_Origins & Design_ and in the books of those associated with the movement.

At this point, Howard and the rest of us will have to settle for a
_description_ of ID instead of a definition. Howard's push for conceptual
rigor is well-justified and a logical place to begin is with key ideas -
like _design_.

> >Howard Van Till wrote:
> >
> >"As I've said many times before, until ID is candidly and publicly
> >by its proponents, there is no use talking about it. You cannot
> >argue about the presence or absence of something that has not been
> >defined in a way that is uniformly understood by all discussants."
> >
> >"I'm still waiting for a candid and public answer to my question,
> >what does it mean to be 'intellinently designed'? Does it require an act
> >"mind," or "hand," or both? That is, is it an act of conceptualization
> >an act of assembly/form-imposing?"

Dennis L. Feucht
Innovatia Laboratories
American Scientific Affiliation Newsletter Editor
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