Re: Ape talk

George Murphy (
Sat, 07 Mar 1998 20:19:38 -0500

Charles Cairns wrote:
> George Murphy wrote in part re image of God:
> > 2) seems to me fundamental in defining the image as involving a
> >relationship with God, & 1) then tells us qualities humanity is to
> >possess because of that relationship....
> Thank you very much, George. I like Athanasius' ideas as well, and will put
> him on my planned reading list (which gets longer by the day). I have
> avoided considering reason or Logos part of the image of God, because it
> could be argued that some primates possess reason (rhesus monkeys using a
> crate as a stool for reaching bananas, for example). Not the reason you
> mention, ie, the ability to communicate with God, but reason nonetheless;
> but if even it is the most rudimentary, so long as they possess some little
> bit of it, it puts reason on a long list of characteristics that we once
> thought were exclusively human.
> However, I've given it more thought in recent weeks since Russell's original
> post, and I don't see a problem with primates possessing anything human in
> some small measure; in fact, it fits quite nicely with the "coming of age"
> view that I shared in a message to Glenn earlier.

& if the Logos is the One "in [whom] all things hold together"
(Col.1:17) then it wpould seem that there is a basic connection of the
Logos with all creatures. (Col. doesn't use the Logos language of Jn,
but, being closer to the wisdom tradition, but they're similar.)

George L. Murphy