RE: cracks in creationism

Vandergraaf, Chuck (
Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:32:29 -0500


You write in reference to comments about the
>'young-carbon-in-old-basalt' article that, "It interests and intrigues me
>that such an anomaly is written off so quickly by Christian scientists who
might have a vested interest in following up on it."

You make a valid point; perhaps we should follow up on Snelling's
results. My first response to the article was the question the creation
of the imprint of a leaf on basalt, considering that leaves don't last
long at high temperatures, and basalt is deposited as a molten lava.
Glenn Morton made a similar comment and went into more detail.

It seems to me that, rather than check on the details of the C-14
analysis, whether or not 40 ka is "pushing the analytical envelope,"
some obvious questions should be raised. That was the intent of my
response. I have not heard or read any explanation on how a leaf can
leave an imprint in basalt. Seems to me that the ball is in the court
of the proponent.

Another point is that the results reported by Andrew Snelling don't
agree with the generally accepted understanding of the age of the earth
(I don't want to get into "secular" or "non-secular" views; that's not
the point). Changing our theories is a lot of work; it's easier to
challenge a set of results and let the other guy do the work. This is
not because we are lazy, but because we are (I am, anyway) surrounded by
alligators in the form of deadlines to meet, etc.

Christmas season or not, we need to be charitable to our brothers and
sisters in Christ in all our dealings with them.


T.T. Vandergraaf
Geochemistry Research Branch
Whiteshell Laboratories
Pinawa, MB R0E 1L0
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