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Paul Arveson (arveson@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Thu, 27 Feb 97 12:23:41 EST

Inge Frette wrote:

Hello all,
I have been following this projector for some months now. So this is the
first time I write. Thus a brief introduction. I am 29 years old, from
Norway and lives in Norway, but I am a member of ASA. Never been in USA.
I graduated from
the University in Oslo last year with a graduate degree in condensed matter
physics, actually in the physics of disordered systems and materials, an
area where the use of fractals are kind of useful and necessary.
I also have univeristy degrees in theology and engineering.
Now I work with computer science in a seismic company.

Welcome and thanks for writing, Inge. Perhaps we need to re-name ASA to
be the International Scientific Affiliation. (Any votes for this?)

I am ashamed to say that I have not read much from George Marsden, I guess
because I have not until now seen the need for us to understand church
history of the 19th-20th centuries. But I now have the suspicion that
we are in many ways repeating old debates here. After all, Darwinism
was a 19th-century theory and all its implications and objections were
well developed in that century. I did read James Moore's excellent
book, "The Post-Darwinian Controversies" that makes this clear. I believe
that even Behe's arguments, in some form, were presented much earlier.
In other words, I am suggesting that there is nothing fundamentally new
in the debate now. This also applies to flood geology, which was well
developed in the early 19th century by Cuvier and others. And of course
Genesis has always been around.

So what's essentially new? What are we doing debating these issues now
except as a learning process?

Paul Arveson, Research Physicist Code 724, Signatures Directorate, NSWC
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