Re: Dating Adam

Glenn Morton (
Tue, 04 Jun 1996 06:25:59

Bob Miller wrote:
>In order for Noah and company to survive for a year provisions would
> have had to have been taken on board the Ark. Could they not have taken
> enough for 1 year and 4 months?

Yes they could have but there is more to it than simply farming. Assuming
an anthropolgoically universal flood, then there is more to the technolgoy
we say was uninterrupted than merely farming. There is metal work, mining
of 3 ores (copper iron and tin) the knowledge of how to find, mine and
smelt the ores. The knwoledge of how to cast the metal. There is also the
knowledge of how to find and mine coal, the knwoledge of how to build the
furnace. Do you know that there is one more item than coal/ iron ore and
a furnace which is absolutely necessary for the production of iron?
Without it all you get is hot iron ore. There was knowledge of how to cut
stone which must be transmitted to the next generation.

I do not know if you grew up on a farm or not but with eight people, even
farming would be a full time job so assuming that they are able to get
agriculture going, those eight people would have no time to do the
prospecting for ores, the mining of ores, the smelting of ores etc. There
simply is not enough time for them to work all these jobs. Mining and
metal work stand on the economic shoulders of farming. The miners and
metalworkers have NO time to grow their own food. The farmers must feed
them. Because in the B.C. economic system the farmer used no metal
personally or directly, a farmer would be reluctant to give his food to a
miner for no return at all. Thus a government is required to steal the
food in the form of taxes and use that food to pay the miner/metal workers
so that they can make weapons out of metal! Similarly with stone masons.
The farmer could get along with chipping flint blades but did not need
someone to cut stone blocks for monuments.

Potters also arose about the time mankind became more farming oriented.
Potters need specialized types of clay for their pots. This is a
specialized field of knowledge which could not easily be passed down. The
potter's knowledge of how to find and bake the clay would be lost. Taking
dirt, wetting it and putting it into an oven gives you crumbly pots. Do
you know what else is needed? These types of specialties require more than
8 people!

8 people would have a full time job just feeding themselves, let alone
galavanting miles across the country side hauling iron/copper and tin ore
or looking for the right type of clay.

After 1 or two generations the knowledge of how to do these things would
be lost even if they had been written down. I heard a NASA guy complain
that we could no longer build the Atlas rockets we used to go to the moon
even though we have the blueprints. There were also a lot of tricks of
the trade that the assembly line used which were never written down. We
could build the rocket but it would probably blow up. Similarly with
metal work. A lot of things get lost if the trade is not taught directly
from one person to the next.

You vastly underestimate the difficulties.

I wrote:

>I believe that God taught the original civilization what it needed to
<know but He didn't do that for the descendants of Noah. Thus,there must
>of necessity have been a long, long period of savagery after the flood
>while technology was gradually re-developed.

Bob asked:
>Where is your evidence?

I said I "believe God taught....". I can't prove what God did or did not
teach Adam.

The evidence for a long, long period of savagery is what we call the

If you want a recent flood, where is your evidence of a world-wide
interuption of civilization's development within the past 50,000 years?
I have studied the archeological and anthropological sciences to try to
find that interruption. There is none. At least Dick's view fits this
data point.There is no worldwide interruption of technology and that is
most certainly an expected occurrance.


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