Re: Ramm's flood

Terry M. Gray (
Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:04:54 -0400

>I am curious about one thing, that you, an old earth,
>theistic evolutionist (on which point we fully agree) are
>against an ancient flood. Surely it is not because of the
>genealogies in Genesis? If you place additional time in
>the genealogies in order to move the flood from 2336 B.C.
>to some time earlier (in order to avoid having the flood in
>the middle of the Egyptian empire), you are doing the very
>same thing as I am doing. The only quibble is the amount
>of time, not the FACT that we would both be adding time to
>the record.


There is NO evidence that any sort of civilization such as that described
in Genesis 4-9 existed more than 10-20,000 years ago. This is the key
problem. I would agree that if it were just a matter of time that the
Genesis geneologies could hand it, but it's not a matter of time. You
stress the evidence a great deal, but you have conveniently buried all the
evidence in the depths of the Mediterranean Sea and, on your view, in my
opinion you could even claim that because of the destruction of the flood
and the small size of the human population at the time that such evidence
might never be found. Your view with respect to the anthropological issues
is empirically verifiable only in some imaginary way.


Terry M. Gray, Ph.D. Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
Calvin College 3201 Burton SE Grand Rapids, MI 40546
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